What does it really mean to be alive, not just successful? And what happens when you stop trying to control life and start learning how to feel it?

In this powerful episode of Love Purpose Connection, Estelle is joined by rugby legend Jonny Wilkinson for a heartfelt conversation about presence, healing, and living from the heart.

Jonny reflects on the inner journey that followed his success, shaped by anxiety, pressure, and a deep search for peace and how curiosity, Buddhism, and learning to surrender transformed both his performance and his life.

Together, they explore vulnerability, acceptance, and the courage to meet discomfort with compassion. From “mini deaths” that lead to growth to moments of pure flow, this conversation goes far beyond rugby and into what it truly means to be present.

At its core, this episode is about hope: that breakdowns can become breakthroughs, healing unlocks potential, and when we stop forcing life, something far more meaningful can unfold.

In this episode:

What it really means to be alive and present

Why breakdowns can become breakthroughs

Curiosity as a gateway to new ways of being

Acceptance, surrender, and letting go of control

Vulnerability as true courage

Archetypes, warrior, martyr, saviour,

Masculinity, sensitivity, and emotional awareness

Spirituality, Buddhism, and the search for peace

Flow states, performance, and the “quantum field”

Living from the heart instead of the head

Men’s mental health and learning to feel

This is a conversation about surrender, awareness, and learning to trust life… even when it feels uncomfortable.

Learn more about Jonny here 

Jonny Wilkinson is a former England rugby union player and one of the most respected figures in the sport. Best known for scoring the iconic drop goal that won England the 2003 Rugby World Cup, he built a legendary career through discipline, precision, and an uncompromising commitment to excellence.

Since retiring from professional rugby, Jonny has focused on wellbeing, mindset, and conscious living. He is also a co-founder of a wellness drinks company, reflecting his ongoing passion for health, balance, and purposeful performance beyond the game.